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Debate Score:93
Arguments:44
Total Votes:102
Ended:02/12/10
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Should the mentally insane who commit crimes be treated differently? 5th & 6th

Yes

Side Score: 69
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No

Side Score: 24
8 points

Anyone in America that is able to live with the same rights as a sane person should be tried for crimes too. If a mentally insane person has restrictions then you wouldn't need to try them in the first place.

If the criminal has a mental illness that is actually legitimate that lets say makes him do harm, then he should be able to plea insanity and get the help they need. Rather than throwing them to mentally corrupt people in a jail that could harm one's mind further.

Side: yes
4 points

If you're mentally unstable and you have committed a crime I do think they should have a trial just like any other criminal who is not mentally ill. They can do the same crime as the one who is insane but don't you think the one who isn't unstable does the same crime as the unstable person wouldn't just make them, unstable? Point is, that they should have a trial. They are criminals, with a perfect mind or not, they killed or did something wrong being a insane is no excuse.

Side: yes
4 points

The mentally insane committ crimes and sometimes get away with it because they are incapable of controlling there thoughts ang just lose it.There is no reason they shouldnt be tried in court as an evaluation to see how insane they really are. in some cases some people are sincerely insane and need to be treated. These people should be sent to a place especially for the insane to see if they can be helped and changed.

Side: yes
3 points

I think that if someone is truely insane and they attack someone out of their insanity then they should be more then welcome to plead insanity. With that said I also think that if someone is to plead insanity that they should take the length of the jail sentence they would have served and turn it into a physch ward time sentence. If you are truely insane then a physch ward is the best place anyways, don't you think?

Side: yes
3 points

Yes, first of all, if they do a crime, there HAS to be a trial. You don't know if their illness got in the way or if they did it on purpose. Second of all, if they're given that excuse, that means they can kill, steal, etc. with no limit. If they do those crimes, then the purpose of stopping criminals becomes meaningless.

Side: yes
3 points

Yes, I think that the mentally ill should be tried for their crimes. If someone is mentally ill, they should be under proper care and guidance if they are likely to commit something as serious as a crime.

If they were to commit a crime, then the person who is responsible for their care (if anyone), should be tried for the crime as well as the individual who committed the act. That seems fair and just for both sides of the case.

Side: yes
3 points

They should be tried! Anyone who commits a crime should be tried whether they're crazy or not. If theyr'e mentally insane then they should be put in a special place so that they dont harm anyone in the first place. Who even knows when the person became crazy. The crime they did could've made them crazy which would REALLY not give them any kind of excuse at all.

Side: yes
3 points

A mentally insane person should be guility no matter what because they did something wrong like murdering somebody. They should know right from wrong from the start before they even did it. If there were no consequences everybody would be murdering each other, and nothing wouldn't be worth anything because instead of buying it people will just steal.

Side: yes
3 points

People who plead insane may be able to come off as not guilty, but it's extremely stupid to let them off without and punishment. If they really have problems then they should be on medications and if they are and "forgot" to take it, then they should face the consequences. They can't get off free because that just gives people the right to do wrong. Show them wrong so hopefully it won't happen again.

Side: yes
3 points

The words "mental ill" means somebody who is sick in the brain. As humans we cannot control our thoughts, no matter how hard we try. Murder is murder even if you say you're mentally insane, being sick in the brain doesn't qualify as "innocent"! If every muderer, rapist, thief & etc claimed mentally insane in court, think about all the justice that isn't being served to them. By he/she claiming to be mentally insane, thats basically a "get out of jail free" card. Once he/she is "clean" from that "mental illness", they continue on with their lives. And what happens to all families that lose their loved ones to a murder or rape? Isn't our country about serving justice to those who it is deserved?

Side: yes
3 points

They should be tried for crimes, because their mental illness may not be that severe, and they might of done the crime on purpose. If they have a severe mental illness, then they should be able to plea insanity, but instead of jail, they could go to a mental institution. I do not think that they should just serve their time, they should be there until a doctor says they are okay to be out in the world. This way, they are well enough to know not to commit a crime.

Side: yes
3 points

I think that everyone has some anger inside of them that they get to a point were they want to solve the problem by doing something back to the person that hurt them mentally, physically, or emotionally. I think that insane people know whats going on because of the way that they acted, they could of done something such as stab a person and they know its wrong but they still do it without thinking, i will say for the doctors to examine them well, on a lie detector test or something like that. So they should have a trial as a criminal because they acted as one.

Side: No
2 points

If a person is able to point a gun and shoot or take a knife and stab another person, then they are more than able to be tried for there crimes. People that get of the hook on an insanity plee just goes to show how lenient our court systems really are.

Side: yes
2 points

everyone should be held accountable for whatever they do. if a mental guy kills someone it doesnt change the fact that they killed someone. and if a persons mental and they kill someone that just means they are a hazard to society. there for they shouldnt be amongest the people where they can hurt them.

if someone commits a crime they should be tried, whether they are crazy, a man, or a woman. everyone should be tried equally. unless your like a 4 year old that shot his brother. :o

Side: yes
2 points

If you're mentally ill and you have committed a crime I do think they should have a trial just like any other criminal who is not mentally ill. They can do the same crime as the one who is insane, but don't think the same as the one not mentally ill. But sometimes is hard to tell if they're ill or not what if that person that killed just acting ill.

Side: yes
2 points

I think that is better for the mentally people to stay in a mental house in steed of prison because they don't know what there doing but they still have to suffer the consequence.

Side: yes
1 point

If your smart enough to kill some one then your not crazy, your just acting that your crazy because you feel ashame of them because they don't like the guilt for doing it. There just so dang stupid. Acting crazy isn't funny its depends on the action on the person. But their just dumb in the head. No person is crazy enough to be crazy to kill some one or take a gun to some ones head. Thats just stupid, because they just know they are going straight to jail.

Side: yes
1 point

Without a doubt they should be tried despite if they are truly insane or in their right mind, no one is above the law. The mentally insane truly believe they are in the right mind and what they are doing is right. They don't understand social and common rules like we do but that doesn't give them the ride away for breaking the law. There is a reason we have asylums and places for people are like that. People that plead insanity aren't really insane they are just trying to get away with a crime they committed. If they are really insane then why do they seem completely in the right mind before and sometimes even after the crime they committed, they especially seem okay and grief stricken in front of a jury. Regardless if you are insane or not you deserve to be tried for the crimes you committed.

Side: yes
1 point

Just because somebody is mentally insane, doesnt mean that they have the right to commit a crime. If you are mentally insane and commit a crime, you should be convicted and put into a mental institute instead of a public prison. If a person is mentally insane, what is he doing in the open public in the first place?

Side: yes
1 point

Yes, because they are doing something bad, no matter how they are, they are doing a crime and when a person do a crime that person have to pay for what they did.

Side: yes
1 point

Yes, i think that they should be a tried. Even though there not on there five senses and kill someone they should still be tried.Everyone should be treated equally. If a mentally insane get away with murder or any other crime; then alot of other people will try to get away with it too. theyy Shouldn't be sent to jail, but to a safe Place for them.

Side: yes
1 point

I believe that everyone has the right to go on a speedy trial. On that matter who are we to know If this "mentally insane" person is truely insane? Under our statutes a man is protected by the sixth amendment to go to court.

A mentally insane person can plead insanity but ofcourse some form of punishment for this person. A death is a death insane or sane, Its never right. Peoples disorders cant be excused for that form of crime.

Other than that I believe that everyone should be treated equal, If you can plead insane I also believe that you should have proof of it. To make things less complicated. Also "The Joker" from batman comes to mind? So lest just think this out for a minute till we can all agree to a right answer.

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Side: yes
1 point

Lets just say that if someone is mentally ill and kills someone you know, and just because that person is crazy they shouldnt be put on trial. Well, thats not right because that is no excuse for killing someone. They should be put trial and let them decide about the sentence.

Side: yes
1 point

i feel like..if some one has mentally insane should be tried for there crimes..if the should kill some one..i think the need to be locked up...

Side: yes
1 point

Mentally insane people should be tried for crimes, because even if they dont know what they are doing someone should be taking care of them. A non mental person still has to be tried for a crime, and sometimes they are innocent. To find out the trueth about someone they still need to be tried for a crime no matter the mentally state they are in.

Side: yes
1 point

Yes, I think that the mentally insane should be tried for their crimes. There should be a law where insane people can be protected by giving them less years in prison, or they should be put in a special place for themselves and being treated as the same as normal people.

Side: yes
1 point

I think that mentally insane be tried for crimes because you don't know if he did it because of his mentally illness or he did it on purpose just because he hate the person.

I don't think that shouldn't the mentally insane be tried for crimes because everybody who commit a crime would say that they are mentally ill so they would not be trial.

Side: yes
1 point

Yes, I do think that the mentally insane should be tried for crime because some of them that plead that they're mentally insane but in reality they aren't, But, if they are really mentally then they should be sent to a mental instatute.

Side: yes
1 point

I say that the mentally insane who have commit crimes should go to trial because they are criminals because they could kill someone again and should go to jail, but theres does who are mentally insane who just have problems and need help.

Side: yes
0 points

crazy people dont need to be locked up in a prison but they need to be put into a crazy home or something like one of those padded rooms. Better them be quarantined then them running around stabbing peoples mothers while they're asleep thinking they just slayed a goblin queen or something.

Side: yes
6 points

Mentally insane people should definately be tried for crimes, they are no different from any "normal" person technically speaking. Being mentally ill doesn't affect your thinking of what's wrong and right. Whether you kill someone out of spite or something clicked in your head you physically and mentally know that you did it. I think they should be trialed as a regualr criminal because when they plead insanity all thats going to happen is they will get sentenced to go stay at a psychiatric ward and get treatment for their condition, rather if they were in jail they would have to live and really think about what they did and suffer the consequences like any other cold hearted criminal.

Side: yes
4 points

They should have a trail no matter what. If they are able to kill , they are able to go to jail. The mentally ill know what they are doing. They just think since they are mentally ill they can get away with it because they can plea insainty. I think that is dumb. Somebody can just plea insanity and just act crazy for the rest of there life instead of going to jail

Side: yes
4 points

If a person kills a person it doesn't matter if there sick in the head or not they still should get the same punishment as a person that kills a man and isn't sick. Jeffery Dahmer was a killer a rapist and a cannibal right in Milaukee. What if he said he was sick in the head and they just let him go he would still be out there killing and eating people. If you commite a crim you should be punished.

Side: No
2 points

Mentally insane people are not little babies. They still should know better of what they are doing. Thats why theres therapists, and teachers and special people to help these insane people, Which means, most of them know what's wrong and what's right. So should face the consequences if they did a crime, just like any other normal person

Side: No
2 points

If you commit a crime I believe that you should be punished for your crime. People do get better at insane asylums but when they get all better they are allowed to leave the asylum. That to me is like saying what you did wasn't wrong just because you were sick. That just doesn't sit right with me, and they should get the same punishment as everyone else and this guarantees that it won't happen again.

Side: No
1 point

When you can see that person is mentaily insane, you should try and run a couple of test to see whats really going on. Then to, There are those type of people who plan there mental insaneness. By just letting things that are little control there anger, which may lead to insane...

Side: No
1 point

I believe that if you disobey the law, you should go to jail. No if's and's or but's. If you run a red light or somebody is raping you and you killed them, then you should just get a ticket. But if someone is raping you and is robbing banks, then they should go to jail no matter what. Their punishment should be whatever the person they hurt thinks it should be. I think this because of course everyone is going to disobey the law once or twice, sometimes without knowing, but I think we should all get punished for it, just in different ways.

Side: No

They shouldn't be treated any differently just because they are mentally insane. Just because someone has a mental illness doesn't mean they can have a "free pass" to do whatever they please.

Side: No
1 point

No, insane or not insane they should have the same consequences as any othe person. If someone has a mental illness they are tested as kids most of the time, and should be taken to a mental institution. So they should know right from wrong when they get older.

Side: No
0 points

No, absolutely not. The mentally ill are not responsible for their actions depending on their illness state. They should be properly taken care of and treated with kindness, because they don't know what they're doing half of the time.

Vote no for mentally ill trials. Voice your opinion. Only YOU can prevent forest fires.

Side: No
tr3rr3llj(11) Disputed
2 points

First off that ending was just....umm whats the word...ILLRELEVANT! And secondly what you're saying is if go and murder your loved one and plead insanity, its not a big deal? In order for you to actually murder someone you have to be in a sane mindset. Revenge or any act of murder requires planning and plotting, if you were to just walk up to someone and murder them, obviously you would be sentence to prison as a murderer not insane. So my point is those who claim to be insane and commit murder or any crime really aren't insane.

Side: yes
-4 points
jasonj(12) Disputed
1 point

Well what if the person just says that they are seeing things but really they are not? If they are never taken to trial then they won't get a test to see if they truely are insane and therefore they could just simply lie about there mental stablility and get off without any reprecussions.

Side: yes