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Debate Score:61
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Total Votes:73
Ended:12/19/09
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Should students be able to attend the high school of their choice? 4B

Yes

Side Score: 30
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No

Side Score: 31
Winning Side!
7 points

Students should be allowed to choose their highschool for one reason, learning is a choice. Yes learning can be forced upon you by other factors such as parents and teachers but without the desire to learn the information we get passes over our heads. If the student doesn't like the place he or she is attending then their is no desire to work. I think that in order for the student to learn they need to be in an enviroment that they want to be in. A saltwater fish will not live in fresh water, same with a smart student in a below average school

Side: yes
davida(6) Disputed
1 point

The analogy of the smart student in a below average school is invalid, because that allows the student to shine and be noticed above their lackluster peers. The story of smart students rising from nothing is seen a lot these days, and if a student is devoted to their education enough, it doesn't matter whether they are placed in a school or not.

Side: No
SeanW(10) Disputed
0 points

However, if a student attends the school with their friends, they would be distracted, so it would be equivalent to a fish attempting to live in a bowl with foggy water.

Side: No
4 points

No two high schools are going to be exactly alike, some are more spatious while others more cramped, some specialize in specific learning fields while others carry a wide variety of courses. The point being that the high school that you may be forced to go to may not fit your specific needs as a student. If your dream is to become a national football player then you want to go to a school that has a great atheletics program. If you want to become a scientist and aspire to win a Nobel Prize in some field then you want to go to a school with high academic standards. By being forced to go to a high school which may not offer the courses you want or need to achieve your goals then those goals become that much harder to acheive. By being able to choose which school they wish to attend a more specialized and effective program of learning can be achieved which will help a lot more students than just deciding which school by area.

Side: yes
2 points

By choosing their school, students are, in a way, choosing their education. Every school has their pros and cons. Some schools have better teachers, more opportunities to create a more successful future for yourself. I feel that being allowed to choose your school isn't a black and white situation. The gray area includes restrictions. The fact that a school may not meet the students' needs. If, for any reason, a student should decide they want to go to a different school, they should be allowed to fill out paperwork to transfer. However, a number of schools are built per city to fit the population. If crowd control becomes an issue, students may receive less attention from teachers and therefore not do as well academically. I feel that kids should be allowed to choose the school they attend, even if restrictions are set, because it can potentially help them be more (or less) successful.

Side: yes
2 points

In the Constitution, the first Amendment gurantees us freedom of expression. Being able to choose the school of their choice allows students to excercise this right. Students know more about themselves than their parents or teachers do and so allowing them to choose the high school of their choice will make them happier and they will work harder because they are doing something they like. Meaning if a student was big on art then they should be allowed to go to a high school that has a good art department rather than having to go a school with a cruddy art department that their parents chose because they will work harder and do better at the school with the good art department because they are doing something they like.

Side: yes
2 points

In my opion students should pick the high school they attend. Students learn and work better if they are in an inviroment they feel comfortable in. Kids that go to a school where their friends go, can study and learn with people they know. If a student, went to a school they didn't want to go to, they would be as intested in learning if they went to a school where they knew people.

Side: yes
1 point

My family and I change home, or move apartment every single year, and the one thing that I apreciate about my mom is that she permits my brother and me to attend at the school we want to. She does that for one exact reason. She believes that education is everything and she simply does not want us to give up school because we don't like or feel confortable with the school we are attending. Every single student should have the right to say which school they wish to attend. You would say that a student would not like to change school because of their friends and even though that is extreamly true, I believe we also care about our selves and we want to feel confortable with our enviroment. Wouldn't you as adults like to work where you wanted?

Side: yes
1 point

Students, in my opinion, should be able to chose where they want to spend their high school years. High school is supposed to be the best four years of a teenagers life, and by allowing them to attend the high school they desire, they have a better chance to be successful. If students were able to attend the high school of their choice, they would chose the school based on its academy success, fine arts classes, a better community of people, or even better lunches. Students should have the choice to attend a high school that would get them ready for College and most important for life.

Side: yes
1 point

If students could go to any school of their choice they would obviously pick the best one right? so competiton to be a better school would increase dramatically and each school would put much more funds ito making their campus a better place to be than others. without competition nothing has a reason to grow and get better.

Side: yes
1 point

If students were allowed to choose the school they attended they would be able to claim that they have trouble doing things because of how far away they live. For example, I live in south Grand Prairie and because my mom is a teacher at an IISD, I chose to go to school in Irving. The distance can sometimes be a burden but I have to make it work. If a student is willing to work hard and prove that they deserve to be there as much as anyone else, then their should not be an issue with allowing them to attend the school of their choice. By choosing the school they will attend, the students are committing themselves to literally go the distance and be just as successful as students who go to school in their own district.

Side: Yes
1 point

A student should be able to attend the school of their choice. If you happened to live in the Acedemy distric, even though you have to apply to go there, and you didnt want to do anything in the arts program. Thats what the Academy mostly is, fine arts. You wanted to to play sports or manage sports. why whould you go to a school that dosen't offer you what your looking for. Yes if you go to the acedemy you can cheer for MacArthur or play soccer for Mac, but you can't play football, baseball, or swimming or gymnastics. Going to the Academy wouldn't fit your interests. That's why i think students should be allowed to attened the school of their choice.

Side: yes
davida(6) Disputed
1 point

Nobody is forced to go to the Academy, ever. You apply or you don't, whether you live in South Irving or live right next to the Academy.

Side: No
1 point

One of the determining factors of a student's performance in school is the environment that they work in. In most districts you are placed in the school that you are closest to, but it may not be the school that the student wants to attend, so you have to go through lots of paper work to enroll into another school. Schools need to stop worrying about where the students are located, and who crosses the "imaginary line." If a school has better classrooms teachers, or are closer to their friends, then they deserve to have the opportunity to chose to go there.

Side: yes
1 point

In order for students to be successful in high school, they should be in an enviornment that meets their level of comfortability. High school students, who are capable of making their own decisions, should have the right to choose what school they want to attend. Being in a school of the students' liking would motivate involvement in their school which also encourages academic success. A student that is forced to attend a certain high school might not perform as well. They would have an unenthusiastic attitude restraining them from school involvement.

Side: yes
1 point

Without a choice, there is only force. With force, students will become more dissatisfied with what they are intended to accomplish. Because there are so many awful high schools nowadays, it is a right to be able to have a choice of what school to attend. For example, I am suppose to go to Irving High, but because there have been such an incredible amount of crime, I chose to go to MacArthur instead. Though there is crime everywhere, no student should be forced to go to a certain school.

Side: yes
5 points

Empowering students to choose the high school they wish to attend will give them a sense of freedom this country can't provide. It's not like this country was made so everyone can go anywhere they want and learn what they wish to learn. This country was built to keep tabs on it's people not the other way around. If students choose where to go, they'll want to do other insane things like choosing their leaders or following their dreams. We as teenagers need to be told what we want and where we want to go, since that has always worked perfectly before.

Side: No
SeanW(10) Disputed
1 point

If this is satirical, then it should be on the yes side. And it says I need fifty characters to submit.

Side: No
nicholasf Disputed
1 point

I understand what you are trying to get at, but it almost seems as if we chose our own schools, the students would be insane in a good way, and could accomplish many cool and innovative ideas. However, you did put up a good argument.

Side: yes
4 points

You could also say that choosing your school is almost a bribe. Like wearing uniforms, after going through elementary school, and middle school, in highschool, you don't have to wear them. Maybe the schools are trying to bribe you to continue on, practically saying, "Don't drop out in eighth grade!, you don't have to wear uniforms next year." It's the same for this argument. Now they're saying, "Get your highschool diploma, and go to college!; You even get to choose the school of your choice." It seems as if they're teaching you patience, too.

Side: No
3 points

If students attended wherever they wanted, alot of problems would come with it. The main reason we have to attend schools closest to us is beacuse of the student count. lets say there were three schools in a district. if everyine wanted to go to one of them, the schools would be overcrowded, not enough one on one time with teachers and students, and the budget of that school would most likely go up to support it. the other schoold would have alot less people and they would be paying alot of money for the school even if theres only 100 people. Another reason is people might not get enough diveristy in other students and they would become cliquey and maybe violent. if all the thugs and gangs went to the same school because of choice, then that has made that school very unsafe and would be potentially a very bad, unsuccessful school.

Side: No
sterlings2(7) Disputed
1 point

put a cap on the amount of students that can go to each school, then give the students with the highest grades first pick. that way schools can't get overcrowded but you keep the competition that encourages schools to make themselves better.

Side: yes
3 points

In my opinion students should be restrained from choosing the high school of their choice. If students were abetted to pick schools then populous growth would change which could lead to 6A schools or even higher. Class sizes would increase and construction would most likely have to take place in school to support the mass amount of students. Violence rates could embellish as well. The division of districts is a helpful way to maintain stability in schools and should be encourage and not prevented by the choice of students.

Side: No
2 points

Like others are saying, schools may become over or under populated because students get to attend the school of their choice. If every highschool student in the Irving District chose to attend MacArthur, The Academy, Irving, and Nimitz highschools would have no teens attending them. Even if all schools combined, and formed a massive school, everything would still remain chaotic. Nowadays, schools are uniform; The kids go to the school of their district, and highschools are all around the same population. This allows the highschools to be organized.

Side: No
2 points

No. Too many highschool students are not mature enough to make this decision. Many students would only go to certain schools because their friends go there or because that school would be the easiest to pass at. The only students that should be able to select where they attend are the students at the top of their class and they already have a solution for this, transfers. If an extremely successful student goes to a notoriously bad school, then their parents are able to get them transferred to a better school. The parents also have the option of moving to get there student to a better school of their choice. There are also consequences for letting students choose their school, such as overpopulating some schools, underpopulating others, not having enough faculty, or having too much. The management system would be destroyed.

Side: No
1 point

If students were allowed to choose what high school they went to, that would create no balance between the populations of the multiple schools in an area. For example, if most students in Irving wanted to go to MacArthur and did, then Irving, Nimitz, and the Academy would all be underpopulated and lose funding. Schools get taxes from the certain taxpayers in their school districts, so that the parents of the student attending the school in that area are paying taxes for their specific school. Typically, the larger the population of a school, the better funding, and with a messed up balance of student population, funding would be messed up as well. Plus, in certain circumstances you can apply for a transfer anyways, which is very similar to attending the school of your choice.

Side: No
1 point

Students should not be able to attend the high school of their own choice. It can cause problems in many ways. One of the many reasons we should not as individuals choose our choice of high school because i believe if there is one school in your region with the lowest standard in the district no one would want to go there. Which would bring the same high school into a more less category in others point of view

. So being able to choose your school would give the high schools around you less capability to become or compete with schools that have students that are very much compatible as compared to the ones that need help with getting their work done. Student with the highest GPA would want to go somwhere where he/she could be recognised, so by going into a school who's rank is high then the other schools around will give the same student more opportunities to shine. If students could choose their high school then they would want to go where your friends are going so you students will not pay more attention to school work and they will not be able to make new friends and gain more experience. Teachers on the other way would want to go where they can teach more students and the ones that are more bright.

Side: No
1 point

Student's should go to the school that are ranged in where they live. It wouldn't make since for a student to go to a school in a further distances, because there friends are attending there or another various reason. The Districts makes them go to a certain school for a reason. There can be a system of organization, and students are divided up equally within the schools. It helps the school have a variety of people and blends of difference cultures of students.

Side: No
0 points

There is a reason for Districts to have students go to certain schools. If all students in Irving wanted to go to Mac it would be just like hiring all the highschool teachers in the district to one school and all the class rooms under one roof. That would just cause for a huge school; and the worst is there would be over crowding. The programs would end up being full and then students would be left out of certain things they want to take and are interested in. Band would stretch from goal line to goal line, the choir would flood the stage, and the orchestra would be huge. I think that it could possibly rob students of certain opportunities. If students get to choose where they want to go they will be choosing the school they think is the best, they will be choosing which school their friends are at. If schools are spread out that gives everyone nearly equal opportunities for what they want to do they can have a chance at learning more, there wont be as many distractions cause of insaine class numbers, and elective classes wont be over run.

Side: No
davgleicher4(4) Disputed
1 point

Why is having the arts a huge part of a school a bad thing. Some schools barely have a enough kids that are willing to be in those classes. I understand that too many kids is a problem but having more kids wanting to learn about the arts is better than a couple kids.

Side: yes
-1 points

The reason we have the system we have now is to keep everything organized and managable. If students were able to choose where they wanted to go, schools might be to overpopulated or to underpopulated. The conselors already have enough trouble trying to put kids in the classes they need to have to graduate. If you add 200 other kids to that, it makes things very difficult.

The way the schools districts are divided up the way they are to make getting to school as easy as possible. The father you have to drive, the harder it is.

If to many students were in one classroom, then learning could be a serious problem, and that is our entire purpose for going to school.

Side: No