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Debate Score:58
Arguments:23
Total Votes:64
Ended:12/19/09
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Is torture ever justified? 2nd

Yes

Side Score: 14
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No

Side Score: 44
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4 points

If there is a state of national emergency, and a terrorist or criminal has vital information the United states needs, torture may be necessary to save the country from terrorist attack or worse. I will say, though, the rampant use of torture in this day and age is morally wrong. There has been a world-wide precendent of breaking the Geneva laws rather than following them. Toture should be only used on terrorists and criminals, people who make a living on hurting others, and it should be used for information, not out of hatred or anger. Yes, torture is justified, but only in extreme and dire situations.

Side: yes
2 points

I believe that tourture is justified sometimes. If you operate a secret spy mission and you caught somebody from the opposing team, wouldn't you want to torture them to find out what the next form of attack would be from them? I know I would. Like on James Bond 007, he is caught a few times, and the enemies torture him by using a whip, dunking his head in ice cold water and not feeding him. They did this becuse they hoped he would give in.

Side: No
2 points

Tourture- the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.

Think Punisher. If your family was totally obliterated by a crazy mob, and you had nothing left to live for, wouldn't you want revenge? How far would you go to avenge the people who ruined your life and murdered innocent people? Mental and physical torture can be a way of obtaining information. I personally can't image myself torturing someone, but there are many of times when I do believe torture can be justified.

Although it may not be morally right to torture for revenge, karma is very real.

"Do to others what you would have them do to you." -Matthew 7:12, The Golden Rule

Side: yes
1 point

Sometimes torture is the only possible way to indulge information, or maybe actions. Whether it is your brother you are torturing to achieve what you want from him, or a terrorist sometimes torture is the only way. Terrorist attack and we need to obligate the truth from them to avoid catastrophes and prevent deaths of hundreths of inocent people. The normal and humane thing to say would be that torture is nothing but violence leading to more violence, but i say that we need to look at the bigger picture and realize that sometimes that's the only way.

Side: yes
1 point

I do think that tortue can be justified. If there is a national security issue and a group of terrorists have planted a bomb somewhere in America and the F.B.I. has one of those terrorits in custody, then shouldn't they go through all methods possible including torture to find that bomb and make sure that their country is safe especially if torture is the only way to get it out of him.

Side: yes
1 point

Although torture is morally wrong and very horrible, I believe torture is justified on very rare occasions. If we have to tourture one person to save the lives of millions of other people who are in danger,then I believe it is justified. But torture is only justified if it has a good and strong reason behind it.

Side: yes
0 points

There should be a very good reason for someone to be tortured. If a person tortures someone else in any way then they deserve to be tortured. If somebody is murdered then you can't just talk to the murderer and tell him not to do that or put him in prison. You have to torture him because he won't listen if you just talk to him. If he is tortured then he will probably think twice the next time he decides to murder someone.

Torturing isn't ever really "okay", but in some circumstances it can be justified.

Side: yes
10 points

Torture can never be justified, for whatever reasons. Neccessary? Maybe, but never justified. Prisoners of War are good examples of this. They usually never have information that leaders know, and are still tortured for information that they do not have. However, sometimes torture is the only option left, and people use it as a last resort, but some just jump straight ahead to it. Waterbording, shocking, alligator shears, and glasgow smiles and listening to a loop of "Party in the USA" should never be inflicted on a person, no matter what the crime or information needed. Though many leaders have partaken in this, it should not be used anymore. Using these methods of obtaining information is wrong, effective, but wrong. Other techniques can be used to obtain information other than this, like Sodium Pentathol, or extortion.

Side: No
6 points

Torture is cruel and inhumane. No matter what some suspected (or known) terrorist or 'threat to the country' is planning or has done, they do not deserve psychologically and physically damaging treatment. When United States soldiers are tortured in foreign countries, the United States government and people raise hell, so what makes us think that it is condonable for us to commit the same, or even more atrocious, acts, when dealing with soldiers foreign to our country? Just because the technology we have developed for torture is advanced, does not mean the practice itself is not just as barbaric as it was in the Middle Ages.

Side: No
4 points

Everyone is a human being despite whatever horrible mistakes they might make and I believe it is inhumane to harm another being regardless of what they might have done wrong. There are other means of punishment, such as prisons, mental institutions and sometimes, if the crime was great enough, death by injection; all of which are a removal of the person who has done wrong from the society they are damaging.

If you need any sort of information from a person, there are ways of getting it besides tortue. Obtaining information through psychological devices is much more effective and causes less damage than physical harm ever has or will.

In the case of physical harm, some people try to justify it through revenge; an eye-for-an-eye. Torture isn't an appropriate response to any sort of conflict. Causing severe harm to another being makes you just as cruel, just as corrupted and wrong as whomever you are torturing.

Who are we to determine what requires torture and what doesn't?

Side: No
3 points

Any kind of torture is not justified. Torture and punishment are two different things. Punishment is geared towards malicious humans who performed some sort of crime. Torture could be out of pure enjoyment towards harming someone or something, or to get some sort of revenge. For example, during the Holocaust, the Jews were tortured simply because of what they were. They weren't being punished for crimes they committed. It's impossible to justify something that is completely unethical. Even if a human seems to deserve to be tortured, we have no right to inflict this type of pain on them. Torture is never justified.

Side: No
3 points

A person is a person. Even if they are a bad person, he/she is still a person. My opinion is nobody should be tortured in any way or form, reguardless if they have commited a crime or something wrong. I feel that torture is a brutal and unfair way for humans to show the dominance that they obtain.

Nobody in this world deserves torture by our doing. Nobody in this world should be punished by the judgement of mankind. Nobody has the right to torture somebody. Who are we to judge why a person should be brutally tortured? It is not up to us to determine somebody's punishment.

Side: No
3 points

No matter the wrong, no matter how bad we may think a person is, torture should never resolve anything. Who are we to say that some one else deserves to suffer because of their actions? It's not like we're perfect ourselves.

Say a man murders another. What's the penalty? Death. Would that be fair? How would that make you feel like a good person?

Side: No
3 points

When a person applies torture to a situation, the outcome of the situation can be false. For instance if a person where to torture another into saying that they committed a crime, then the person being torture might state it in order to escape the pain. If torture was justified then it would be used in jails which it isn't.

Side: No
2 points

I don't think torture is ever justified. Even if there was a criminal who did heinous things to his victims and tortured them until he killed them, I think he should be punished by death not by torture. The feeling you have when someone does you wrong, the spiteful, vengeful feeling when you want to make them suffer in the way you have should be quieted. It's wrong either way for any one to be put under that.

Side: No
1 point

Torture is wrong. No one deserves to be tortured for any reason what so ever. There are other ptions people can use to punish someone for whatever they did wrong.

Throughout history, people have been tortured for a number of reasons. Whether they broke the law, or the punisher needed them to give up information. They used many different methods, and some were so extreme that the person being tortured was killed. Today, we know better.

There are so many different laws against physical abuse that i think most people have come around to the fact that torture is wrong. I think it would be nearly impossible to make torture not only "right", but legal.

Side: No
1 point

Toturing people isn't the only way to attain information from people. It also doesn't always work. Torture is never justified. Although people may want to kill or hurt the person that hurt them or their families for revenge, I don't think we should always go down to the level of killing them back or hurting them. I think a life long sentence in jail is more better then torture.

Side: No
1 point

Torture is a horrible way of dealing with something or someone. It's never an okay thing to do. A human is still a human no matter what wrong doing they've done. They'll get the justice they deserve somehow. Torture conflicts with growth, or maturing of the mind and/or physically. If someone gets tortured for whatever reason, in the future, they'll never be able to look past it. It'll just remind them that their own kind, people, would do something so low. Either way, the wrong doing they've done will also stay in their minds. With the little conscience, or maybe no conscience at all, their brain will never let the things they've done go.

Side: No
1 point

Despite the fact that torture can be useful for security reasons or helping a nation, it doesn't change the fact of the harm we would cause that person. The "Golden Rule" in kindergarden applies with this concept of torture. No one wants to be tortured. There are plenty other ways to extract needed information.

Side: No
1 point

In some cases, torture is fair but inhumane. If the person is found guilty, we shouldn't punish them by lowering ourselves to their harsh state of mind. We should be better then the enemy.

Side: No
1 point

Torture, by no means, is ever justified. If someone did something wrong that is worth a harsh punishment, a long prison sentence should suffice. Torturing is the most cruel punishment because the people being tortured have to live through their ordeal. This would probably mess them up in the head. Honestly, I would rather die a quick death than endure the multiple beatings that torture brings.

Side: No
1 point

First of all, torture, by definition, could be a simple punch or a twist of a limb because both actions cause cruel, severe pain. Chris Brown, as a well-known example, hurt his own girlfriend seriously, bruising her lips and face, and when you think about it, it wasn't justified. The couple was in an argument that involved both persons, and it was evidently both at fault in the cause of the argument, so there was no good reason for Chris Brown to torture his girlfriend for something he had a part in.

Now in the situation of danger, such as getting robbed or stabbed, torturing the other person still isn't justifiable. A robber is inflicted the same as any other person, and it only puts you in more danger to fight back at him/her.

Side: No
1 point

Torture is not justified because it is cruel and unnecessary. Nothing is solved with torture and I think that nothing comes out by using it. It is unnecessary because so many people use torture in their lives and no one should tortured, they should be punished for what they did wrong.

Side: No