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Needed Unwarranted (uncalled for)
Debate Score:109
Arguments:54
Total Votes:236
Ended:09/12/08
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Is the current level of video surveillance at school needed or unwarranted?

4th Period

Needed

Side Score: 69
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Unwarranted (uncalled for)

Side Score: 40
3 points

If the video surveillances at school are being used for the safety of the students, then yes i totally agree. For example, it could be used to stop a violent fight, the cameras would pinpoint the location its at, and administrators would be there in a second. It could also stop some kids from skipping, with the feeling of being watched students would have second thoughts.

Side: needed

i actually agree with you isay, however the level of surveillance is highly unneeded. We simply have too many cameras for most of them to be of use...

Side: needed
3 points

Yes, i feel that surveillance is needed at school, because thier are crimes that people dont see so we need the cameras to look at. For example, During spring football somebody would mysteriously go into the lockeroom after all the doors were locked and steal shoes, ipods, hundreds of dollars, and other things from our locker room. Another one is when we play our rivals like IRVING or NIMITZ they like to vandalize our school, like one year they tagged on the back of our football field house and the track, some other ones are when nimitz laid out lotz of feathers, forks and honey on our grass, and when irving trashed our practice fields with toilet paper, but we had no survielance for any of these crimes. One crime that did get caught on camera was over the summer three boys got caught breaking in through the back doors and stealing the projectors off the sealings.

Side: needed
2 points

I think its needed because you have kids that skip, go around smoking outside, doing sexual favors, and that could possibly be fighting, jumping, or even abusing someone. An parents want to know that their kids are safe and learning when they step and enter on school grounds. An they wont know if the school doesn't have cameras and principals and teachers that check out thing that's going on inside and around the school.

Side: needed
1 point

I agree that it is needed because it provides more protection for both the students and the teachers. For example, if there is a fight or if something is stolen from a locker. The cameras could be the solution. By going back through the tape you would be able to see everything that happened in that location of the school throught the day.

Side: needed
1 point

you took the words right out of my mouth. i completely agree withy you because lets say a student has alot of money in their locker and its stolen the cameras can help find the person who did it

Side: needed
myshadow(14) Disputed
-1 points

True but how many people really have a locker? and how many people would actually bring something valuable and not keep it with them at all times? its just not a smart thing to do.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
1 point

I believe that the cameras are needed due to fight and thefts that go on in many different places in the school. With the more cameras covering the school, the less crime can happen unseen. If a person says that the surveillance cameras are unwarranted than they have the guilty conscience of getting caught doing something they shouldn’t be doing. So it’s difficult to say he cameras are unwarranted,” that is unless the go into your privacy, and that’s a different subject!"

Side: needed
0 points

Yes I agree with what you are saying, cameras prevent the crimes from happening and those who are guilty do believe they are unwarranted.

Side: needed
allhodgkiss(11) Disputed
-1 points

Just because we dont want as much surveillance doesnt mean we are guilty! We dont want to feel like we're in a cage being watched all the time. We are human beings and we should have some level of respect.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
Chad88(10) Disputed
0 points

No one forces you to stay in the school so therefore it cant be a cage!

Side: needed
1 point

i think is right to have cameras in school because there are so many peole unware of what might happend to them or their belongigns. so therefore this person that committed crime can get in trouble.even though people want individual rights of unfounded suspicious or unwarranted, and our cameras will prevent or protect us from what is happening.

Side: needed
1 point

Yes, the surveillance should be there for the students

I do believe because the troublemaker students will be caught.

The cameras make school administrators job very easier. The locker room surely need some cameras because some students had trouble because their back pack were stolen and some other personal things.

The cameras should be working all the time.

Even after the school is over the cameras are there to watch over.

Side: needed
0 points

i think they are needed because people skip and they need to be in class to get their education. and if they are skipping then whats the point of them coming to school

Side: needed
0 points

Well, I don't really see why we would need so much surveillance, But why not? Therefore, in case there is an incident we get more views. Rather be safe than sorry kind of situation.

Side: needed
0 points

Its needed for all the types of accidents that happen in the school where most of the teachers can't be at. So they can be there without really being there, such as fights or kids staying after school hours which teachers arent aware of if they are walking around or just standing in one spot. This way they can watch everything if some thing is happening. So why worry unless you got something to hide.

Side: needed
loladoll1309(20) Disputed
0 points

The only place teachers can't be where you are is in the bathroom stall pretty much.... and I don't think many fights go on in there.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
johsanchez1(13) Disputed
0 points

So you believe teachers are watching out for every student all the time they are at school?

Side: needed
-1 points

I do believe that video surveillance is needed because it can help catch people who are skipping. it could also help catch someone in the event that they came into the school and committed an act of violence.

Side: needed
-2 points
loladoll1309(20) Disputed
2 points

Yeah, people do really dumb stuff in school, but all those cameras are just coming out of the tax payers money. (Our parents income) and do you think it's really helping? We've got guards in every hall... I think they should be able to see if a student is doing something bad or not.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
erileon(10) Disputed
0 points

who only have about four guards and they mostly stay in the same hallway. also most of them are to friendly with the students.

Side: needed
2 points

i think it isn't needed...the security guards even though annoying are good enough security..the cameras go to far. Our school isn't even at the levels of high crimes. we aren't like the other schools say like in Dallas that have the kids killing each other and bringing guns to school. This isn't Virginia tech..I'm sure that "most" students attending our school are pretty civilized and know whats inappropriate.So no cameras aren't necessary that money can go towards better things that improve the fun and education of the school..

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
Chad88(10) Disputed
4 points

Dont rely on a unreliable source of protection. They can't be every where in the school at once. So when they cant be there its good to have a camera catch a fight or theft or something unlawful. Beside we have three security gaurds and they "dont go hard" they tend to let 80% of school violtions slip. So lets not rely on students being civilized because we all know that is not happing here at this school, and our security officers being everywhere at once.

Side: needed
2 points

thats very true...

Side: needed
loladoll1309(20) Disputed
2 points

I don't think the students are that civilized... they run down the hall shouting and jumping and what not. That's more of what goes on on animal planet.

Side: needed
cin08smith(9) Disputed
0 points

Just because our school doesnt have high crimes dosent mean that there shouldnt be cameras around because the guards cant always catch what the cameras can. In obviously the students (females and males) dosent know whats apprpriate and what isnt because they go around sneaking to go smoke, skip and perform sexual favors and I pretty sure that goes on at any school.

Side: needed
agdemarquis(10) Disputed
-3 points

I understand that school security is a big issue, but the amount of cameras in the hallways is highly unneccesary. With these new cameras, the school comes down on the little things like ipods and phones in between cpassing periods, instead of using them to deter fights and skipping like they are supposed to be used for. They got these "watchful eyes" in our halls and catch us for pettyy stuff since the real reason doesn't happen quite as often... I May be rambling, but it seems like they are just trying to justify having cameras now. They catch every little thing....They simply have too many.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
0 points

There might be too many, but then again you can never be too safe. When the "video surveillance" crosses the line to looking for the small stuff: ipods, phones. Then thats when i would say no to cameras. Thats when it would be a waste of money.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
jovanwalker9(19) Disputed
1 point

Well then you should be opposing it now, because thats whats goin on now. It IS a waste of money, and a waste of time, pulling kids out of classes to punish them, when in actuality their "crimes" are minute...

Side: needed

No. Students will be who they are, and no matter whether a camera or an administrator is watching they are liable to commit any act of violence or inappropriate act. It shouldn't be left up to technology to threatened and scare students, but people, the ones who get paid for watching over us. The tax payers of the local community already pay so much for our schooling, laptops, free lunches, and etc that we can't afford to put forth any more money into cameras and more technological devices. The interests of the the school board has seemed to switch from the education of the students to protecting and disciplining children, when that's not their position. It's about time they start doing their job of giving us the best education possible and stop worrying about the ones who care less about school and try to start fights and problems.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
erileon(10) Disputed
0 points

if students are liable to do whatever they want then why is it against school rules from them to do so, and sudents can do whatever they want before or after school

Side: needed
0 points

I think that we should have some surveillance at school, but not as much as we do now. It is human nature to be rebellious so the more restrictions they give us the more we students are going to rebel. We were fine with just the few cameras we had but now it's just out of control.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
-2 points
Fresh318(7) Banned
-2 points
0 points

The level of surveillance is highly unneeded. We simply have too many cameras for most of them to be of use... We have planty of cameras with the same view point...most of them are unneeded.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
-2 points
-2 points
Fresh318(7) Banned
-3 points
-5 points
-6 points
0 points

i feel that your very right mr terry i wish we could all think the way you do in this situation....very good cooments sir

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
jovanwalker9(19) Disputed
1 point

I understand that school security is a big issue, but the amount of cameras in the hallways is highly unneccesary. With these new cameras, the school comes down on the little things like ipods and phones in between cpassing periods, instead of using them to deter fights and skipping like they are supposed to be used for. They got these "watchful eyes" in our halls and catch us for pettyy stuff since the real reason doesn't happen quite as often... I May be rambling, but it seems like they are just trying to justify having cameras now. They catch every little thing....They simply have too many.

Side: needed
erileon(10) Disputed
-1 points

i think they we do need them and we don't need too much but people can get away with what they want if there are no surveillance at the school

Side: needed
-6 points
-8 points
agdemarquis(10) Disputed
1 point

IT IS NEEDE BY THE FIELD HOUSE BCUS PEOPLE STEAL OUT OF THE LOCKER ROOM

Side: needed
Fresh318(7) Disputed Banned
-1 points

BRUH YOU KILLING THEM BOYS OOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEE I WANT TO BE LIKE YOU SON YOU SHOULD BE AT

Side: needed
erileon(10) Disputed
0 points

your not even on the topic so i think you should at least try and show some effort to this argument

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)