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Needed Unwarranted (uncalled for)
Debate Score:123
Arguments:45
Total Votes:165
Ended:09/12/08
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Is the current level of video surveillance at school needed or unwarranted?

3rd Period

Needed

Side Score: 97
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Unwarranted (uncalled for)

Side Score: 26
6 points

I think that the surveillance cameras in the hallways were a great idea. If something were to happen such as:

1) Someone getting beat up or " jumped "

2) Someone decided to vandalize the school.

3) A unwanted visitor in the school.

The cameras will help catch the person doing whatever it was that they did. I think that in the past when we did not have the cameras people got away with things they should not have got away with.

I think that this will resolve problems through out the school.

Side: needed
2 points

I agree, Mac has gotten better this year about fighting and vandalizm. I think it is partially because of security surveillance.

Side: needed
5 points

I feel that the video surveillance at school is needed, that's why we have it. They can come very handy in a situation when some one vandalized something without anyone seeing them, if they were caught on tape then they can be prosecuted. Cameras may also help in knowing who started a fight if both people have a different stories. I don't think that the surveillance is a problem at all, if anything they're a good help.

Side: needed
4 points

Teachers will always be out numbered by the students, therefore not everything that happens on campus is being reported. Cameras would help the school alot because theres kids who suffer from abuse and no one ever notices. Not only would cameras help us prevent or stop violence but it could also be used for many other different issues. Stealing is a big problem and in a school so big and crowded like MacArthur high school anything can be lost, so cameras could help us prevent stealing. I know some people are probably against video surveillance in our school but think about it would you like to be the kid getting beat up and having no help from the school? Most of the time teachers don't believe kids when they say someone is beating them up because they say that "we have no evidence", well lets put our technology to good use and have evidence!

Side: needed
4 points

Have you ever herd the saying an eye in the sky. Well thats what the school board and the school principals want. Because teachers, hall security, and vice principals are human beings they cant see everything thats going. So they need camreas so that if someone is hurt or in trouble they can see who and were its happing. wen were are in school the teachers and principals are in charge of are safty and if camreas are one way to help them keep an eye on things then let it be.

Side: needed
3 points

The cameras through the school are needed in order to help insure that students that vandalize things are caught. Also, to make people think twice before doing something stupid and pointless.

Side: needed
3 points

They are needed

For example if something got stollen they could go back and look through the cameras to see who it was.

Also when all of the food fights were going on last year they could've used the cameras to try and figure out who was starting them, so they could punish those people instead of the entire school

Side: needed
2 points

Good point, i agree.

Side: needed
3 points

I feel that the current level of video surveillance is needed to keep the school safe. If something were to happen and noone was there to see it, the schools cameras might possibly have it on tape. That would keep "he said", "she said" from happening. Some may feel that the videos arent watched everyday, but they dont need to be. They should be there for evidence purposes, like if something goes missing they can then look to see if its on camera.

Side: needed
3 points

I don't know exactly how much video surveillance there is at this school, but i do know that it is needed for security reasons.

If a crime is committed it will help to find who is responsible.

Side: needed
3 points

yes i support this,

because that way it lowers down crime in school, less fight even drug use.

it also helps everybody keep safe during school incase anything happens they can atomatically find the person that is gulty.

Side: needed
glohernandez(13) Disputed
2 points

im not saying they are doing it in school but in pretty sure theres drug being sold in school

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
balexandert(14) Disputed
-2 points
Audperry(17) Disputed
2 points

Maybe you haven't. Maybe the cameras have.

Side: needed
wyaneliush(5) Disputed
1 point

There are some students who smoke here on campus.I know not in school but outside.Last year I saw some students that they were smoking outside the portables next to the tennis court.

Side: needed
3 points

I understand the reasoning in the school districts decision in adding the cameras. There not trying to do anything more but to further enhance the safety of the campus. For instance what if you left your thing in the Hall or even the cafeteria to talk to a teacher or just to get something to eat an when you returned your stuff was missing wouldn't you want the footage that day. Or if a good friend gets "jumped" or even you, you cant tell me you wouldn't want the people to be caught. so i look at the cameras in optimistic vision because they probably help more people then you think.

Side: needed
2 points

It is needed ,but it is uncalled for using numerous camera's.

Alot of camera's are great for security, but its just dumb putting alot of camera's in one place and it's probably expensive installing the camera's. So its affecting the schools money for installing unneeded camera's.

Side: needed
2 points

yes, sometimes

Side: needed
2 points

Yes the video surveillence is definantly needed. There is always fights happening on campus as well as people damaging property and things of that nature. I dont really see any inconviences in the school putting these cameras up. They are ment to help keep the school a much safer environment. The only people the cameras are going to inconvenience are people who are doing something that they shouldnt be doing.

Side: needed
2 points

I believe that the current level of surveillance at macarthur is required to keep us safe and keep kids from doing things they shouldn't. Personally, I do not have a problem with video surveillance, because i'm not ever doing anything that would get me in trouble at school. If you do have a problem with cameras watching the halls of macarthur, then you are probably inquiring to or already doing illegal activities.

Side: needed
2 points

Yes it is needed because cameras are for security.We can see cameras installed everwhere we go.It is installed everywhere in public places and school is also a public place where many people come and go.I think it is ok to have a video surveillance in school because it is for our own safety.It helps to reduce crime and other things in certain way.so It should not be a problem for those who come here to study.

Side: needed
2 points

Having surveillance is going to do more good than harm. There is going to be teachers in the halls anyway that can watch you and it's not like they have a guy sitting in a room staring at a t.v. all day, looking through different cameras waiting for us to mess up. The point of video cameras is for our safety. It's not taking away any rights or freedoms that we should have. It will help limit kids in the school shooting eachother in the hallways or a knife to the neck, but nothing's full-proof.

Side: needed
2 points

I think that video surveillance is neccesary because that coud lower the crime here at school and make it safer for students.

School is suppose to be a safe place and thats what they are trying to do make it safer for the students who come to learn.

Side: needed
2 points

I think is a good idea because the school has more control about the students and they can has a better decision like who start the fights or something like that ....that’s my opinion

Side: needed
2 points

School is thinking about the safety of their students and there should be no problem.Camera adds a safety for the school.If there is any fight or crime anywhere i think it helps to catch the criminal very easily.It helps to reduce crime in school too.I think the more the camera, the more safety we get.

Side: needed
1 point

Video surveillance is needed everywhere. Just because it's a school and most of the time it's safe, every once in a while something might pop off. And the main people need to know what's going on around the school, to keep it safe all the time not just most.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
1 point

I think it would be better if we have cameras at school because that way there will be more less drama and all the trouble that's been going on between students.It's good to monitor what students are doing.Especially for the one's who skipped alot.

Side: needed
3 points

I'm opposing it because they went too far on where they put the cameras. They put the cameras in the locker room. Most of the athletes take showers and the camera is right next to the place where we get dressed and that makes us uncomfortable.

But in the other hand we need it in order to see evidence. like who started a fight or who vandalized the school.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
0 points

Ok we're in high school. i know that ages are different but for me as a senior i would say that is just pointless because we should have trust...ok freshman i know they skip school or get into fights but not all of them. The one that actually are mature enough they stay in school. Its not a prison its cool and putting more surveillance just makes me wonder. Dont they have a little trust on their students.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
meganxlovely(3) Disputed
2 points

I get what your saying, but by giving the students trust something may go wrong and it would be on them. The school would be the ones to get in trouble. All for trust, i just dont think they would think its worth their jobs or the safety of the school.

Side: needed
rockon3691(17) Disputed
2 points

There is alot of students that shouldnt be trusted. There are many kids out there that damage and destroy things for no reason other than just because they can; and yes there are kids like that at this school. I know a few of them, and they shouldnt be allowed to do it because it only makes life here at Mac worst for the rest of us.

I feel that if your not doing anything bad than the cameras really shouldnt be an issue

Side: needed
nfreshour09(1) Disputed
2 points

The fact that we are in High School makes them more needed.

Teenagers do stupid stuff when they know they arent being watched.

I dont think that having cameras has much to do with them trusting us, it has to do with keeping us safe when there are people that really cant be trusted

Side: needed
0 points

First off i just want to start out by saying that i don't even think have of the cameras in the school even work because i have never heard about or seen anyone get in trouble or get caught doing something wrong by the school cameras. so basically i think they are uncaused for and unwanted and they are just there to make it look like they are trying to make the school look safe

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
0 points

For one reason I think that they should have some video surveillance in school because some people may do idiotic things to harm the school property. By having that many video cameras around the school, I feel like their invading your personal space. I think that they should limit the amount of video surveillance around the school.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
Reyna09(18) Disputed
3 points

How are they invading our personal space?

There aren't any cameras in restrooms or areas where students change clothes or take showers. The cameras have been placed in certain places because they are needed there for different reasons.

Side: needed
gervilla(5) Disputed
2 points

thats reason is really stupid

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
Audperry(17) Disputed
1 point

yes i agree with Reyna. If you have any peronal business that you need to take care of, take it to the bathroom.

Side: needed
-1 points

I think there should have been a few more cameras added but they went a little overboard theres like 3 cameras in one section by the cafeteria and thats uncalled for.

Side: Unwarranted (uncalled for)
Reyna09(18) Disputed
3 points

Maybe all those cameras wouldn't be in that spot by the cafeteria if people wouldn't start food fights or things like that.

Side: needed
1 point

Yea cameras are bunched up in certain trouble areas where alot of unruly activities tend to take place in order to intimidate students into not misbehaving... such as the cafeteria

Side: needed
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

Why is it uncalled for? Why would some be better than alot?

Side: needed
-4 points
keldiaz(18) Disputed
1 point

Actually the students who don't "use that stuff" would feel safer knowing their school is doing something to stop violence and keep everyone safe for future accidents. I don't think anybody would feel different knowing their in a safe enviroment!

Side: needed
1 point

yes i can see where your coming from and i have no problem with the video surveillance cameras i just feel like they could reduce them by just a few

Side: needed